What can forensic psychology teach us about serial killers, criminal behavior, and the way true crime is presented in popular culture? In this episode, licensed professional counselor Josh Korac speaks with forensic psychologist and author Dr. Katherine Ramsland about her work with serial killers, including Dennis Rader, also known as the BTK Killer. They discuss how forensic psychologists study violent offenders, build rapport without excusing harm, and separate careful research from sensationalism. Dr. Ramsland reflects on years of communication with Rader and explains how trust, boundaries, observation, and critical thinking shaped her work. Josh and Dr. Ramsland explore what can and cannot be generalized from serial killers, why motivations differ, and how the field of forensic psychology continues to evolve as researchers challenge old assumptions. The conversation also examines the popularity of true crime. Dr. Ramsland discusses the difference between educating the public and turning violent offenders into entertainment. They consider how documentaries, podcasts, television, and news coverage can either deepen understanding or unintentionally glorify offenders while pushing victims and families into the background. Josh and Dr. Ramsland also discuss media-inspired violence, the concern that some people may imitate crimes they encounter in entertainment, and the importance of distinguishing fascination from actual intent. They explore prevention, treatment, media responsibility, access to weapons, and the need to identify concerning patterns before violence occurs. Throughout the episode, Dr. Ramsland emphasizes the importance of remembering the seriousness of these crimes. Studying violent offenders can support research, prevention, and better understanding, but it should never erase the humanity of victims or minimize the lasting impact on families and communities. In this episode, you will learn about: • What forensic psychologists study • Dr. Ramsland’s work with Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer • How researchers build rapport with violent offenders • Boundaries and self-care in forensic work • Why serial killers do not fit one simple profile • Common myths about serial killers • The difference between education and sensationalism • The rise of true crime podcasts and documentaries • Media-inspired violence and copycat concerns • Ethical questions about giving offenders a platform • Prevention, treatment, and early intervention • Keeping victims and their families at the center Dr. Katherine Ramsland is a forensic psychologist, professor, and internationally recognized expert on criminal behavior. She has appeared in more than 200 documentaries and television programs, consulted for productions including CSI and Bones, and written extensively about forensic psychology, death investigation, serial killers, and criminal profiling. She is the author of more than 60 books, including Confession of a Serial Killer: The Untold Story of Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer, How to Catch a Killer, and The Psychology of Death Investigations. Josh Korac is a licensed professional counselor in Colorado who specializes in trauma, family estrangement, loneliness, and complex relationship concerns. He is also the Lead Moderator of Estrangement.com. Learn more about Josh at joshuakorac.com. Content note: This episode includes discussion of murder, serial killers, mass violence, and the impact of violent crime. This podcast is for educational purposes and does not constitute mental health treatment, forensic evaluation, legal advice, or an established therapeutic relationship.